Named Finals

The ENL final is:

Oxford D (Shengwu Li and Ben Jasper, I think)
Oxford B (Alex Worsnip and Simon Quinn)
Oxford A (Will Jones and James Dray)
KCL A (Jonathan Leader Maynard and Louis Palombo)

Go go JLM!

The ESL final is:

BBU A (Dan Cristea and Nico Lupea)
Leiden A (Leela Koenig and Simone Van Elk)
Tel Aviv A (Yoni Cohen and Rinat Gershfeld)
HSoG A (Adam Hildebrandt and Alena Asyamova)

Go go Leiden!

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so our predictions were more accurate for the ESL final than the ENL final....

Bad luck to Ireland

EUDC 2008: The Book

Ok,

My bid for the ENL final is: KCL A, Oxford A, UCD Law A and UCC Law A.

My bid for the ESL final is: Leiden A, Tilbury for sure. I'm afraid I don't know about the others so I'll run with their breaking position and take BBU A and Tel Aviv A.

What nationality are BBU, by the way?



Any bets?

Named ESL Semis

Can Okar has been good enough to file the names for the ESL semis:


1G BDU B (Ehmann Patrick and Daniel Hinkeldein)
1O Bonaparte B (Sarie Muijs and Reinier de Adelhart Toorop)
2G Leiden A (Leela Koenig and Simone Van Elk)
2O BBU A (Dan Cristea and Nico Lupea)

1G Tel Aviv A (Yoni Cohen and Rinat Gershfeld)
1O HSoG A (Adam Hildebrandt and Alena Asyamova)
2P Tilbury A (Felix Lamouroux and Assen Kochev)
2O Warwick A (Hanns Koenig and Anna Diofasi)

Named Semis

Regrettably, neither Manchester nor ULU B made it through.

The Named Semi final is therefore:

The pairing for SF 1:
1G Oxford A (Will Jones and James Dray)
1O UCD L&H A (Stephan Boyle and Ian Boyle Harper)
2G UCC Phil A (Ross Frenet and Conor O'Brian)
2O KCL A (Jonathan Leader Maynard and Louis Palombo)


The pairing for SF 2:
1G Oxford D (un-listed)
1O UCD Law A (Ross Maguire and Marguerite Carter)
2G Oxford B (Alex Worshnip and Simon Quinn)
2O UCC Law A (Art Ward and Tiernan Fitzgibbon)

Names Quarter Finals

Thought it might be useful to name who was who in the quarters as team names don't say much.

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1G Oxford C (8) (Max Kasriel and Jamie Susskind)
1O UCD L & H A (9) (Stephan Boyle and Ian Boyle Harper)
2G Oxford A (1) (Will Jones and James Dray)
2O TCD Phil B (16) (Brian O'Beirne and Jonathon Wyse)

Judges: Daniel McCarthy (Chair), Derek Doyle, Isabelle Loewe, Stuart Anderson, David Middlemiss

QF 2
1G Cambridge B (7) (Netan Dogra and Charlotte Thomas)
1O ULU B (10) (Fred Cowell and Rosie Unwin)
2G UCC Law A (15) (Art Ward and Tiernan Fitzgibbon)
2O Oxford B (2) (Alex Worshnip and Simon Quinn)

Judges: Ali Cormack (Chair), Adriaan Andringa, Andy Hume, Kirsty Russell, David Wheelan

QF 3
1G UCD Law A (6) (Ross Maguire and Marguerite Carter)
1O UCD Law B (14) (Shane Cranley and Eoin Martin)
2G Oxford D (11) (not listed?)
2O Manchester A (3) (Dan Bradley and James Dixon)

Judges: Daniel Schut (Chair), Sam Block, Ewan MacDonald, Tony Murphy, Olga Polunina

QF 4
1G Leiden A (4) (Leela Koenig and Simon van Elk)
1O KCL A (12) (Jonathan Leader Maynard and Louis Palombo)
2G Helsinki A (13) (Richard Penny and Ina Subulica)
2O UCC Phil A (5) (Ross Frenet and Conor O'Brian)

Judges: Greg O'Neill (Chair), Felicity Cook, Neil Dewar, Andrew Marshall, Bob Nimmo

Motion: "This House would ban the broadcast of recordings produced by terrorists."

Breaking!

Whoop!

MDU A (Dan and James) and ULU B (Fred and Rosie) broke :D

MDU broke 3rd and ULU B broke 10th.

Cue much happiness and delight!

Manchester A - top room

Manchester A are in the top room for round 5, suggesting that they won round 4.

This would put them on +2/10pts.


Whoop!


(Room info courtesy of: http://yourgermancorrespondent.blogspot.com/2008/06/motion-r5-eudc-2008.html)

EUDC 2008: Top 16, so far...

Ok, not strictly the top 16, the table sorts by teams points then alphabetically so as about half of the teams on 7 points are in the top 16, I've included everyone on 7 points.

The numbers on the left hand side are irrelevant.

	Team	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Total
20	BRISTOL A	3	3	3	9
100	OXFORD A	3	3	3	9
101	OXFORD B	3	3	3	9
24	CAMBRIDGE A	3	2	3	8
60	INNER TEMPLE A	3	3	2	8
69	LEIDEN A	3	2	3	8
79	MANCHESTER A	3	3	2	8
103	OXFORD D	2	3	3	8
105	QMUL B	3	3	2	8
117	ST ANDREWS B	3	2	3	8
14	BONAPARTE A	2	2	3	7
19	BPP LAW A	2	2	3	7
25	CAMBRIDGE B	3	2	2	7
36	DURHAM A	2	2	3	7
38	DURHAM C	2	3	2	7
48	HELSINKI A	2	3	2	7
54	HUNI A	2	2	3	7
67	KOC A	3	1	3	7
70	LEIDEN B	1	3	3	7
97	NUIG L&D A	3	2	2	7
125	TCD PHIL B	3	1	3	7
137	UCD L&H A	3	3	1	7
140	UCD LAW A	3	3	1	7
146	ULU B	3	1	3	7

EUDC 2008: Results on EUDC website

Love it:

http://www.eudc2008.eu/index.php?content=42&menuid=15

(Tournament results)

Debate Geekspeak Glossary

I realise that many non-debaters read this blog, so here is a hopeflly helpful phrasebook:

THW/THBT=This House Would/This House Believes That

The positions: There are 4 teams in each debate. Teams cannot be ranked jointly.

EUDC: European Universities Debating Competition

"breaking"- there are 7 'in rounds' where everyone competes. Then the top 16 teams are selected to go into the knockout rounds, the 'out rounds'. This is the break. If you reach the knockout rounds, you've broken. It then goes Quarters, Semis and final with half the teams being knocked out at each stage (the top two teams from each room go through, at this stage)

"Points"- Two ways of doing it: either, +1 point for a 1st, 0 for a 2nd, -1 for a 3rd and -2 for a fourth. You add them up as you go along. So a team with 1st,1st,2nd (also written 112) will be on +1+1+0=+2 over all. 0 is usually referred to as straights.
The alternative way is where 1st=3 points, 2nd=2 points, 3rd=1 point and 4th=zero points. The break at this tournament will likely be 15 points, in my opinion (ie: +1)
I prefer the former method as it doesn't matter how many rounds there are in the tournament, you can still work out the usualy break.

Rounds:- Euros has 7 in rounds (break to quarters). Worlds has 9 (break to octos). Most IV tournaments have 4-5 (break to semis).

IV- Intervarsity (a university level deating competition)

The Tab- is the scoring system. It is merely the computer programme, but also the printed chart. People might say 'the tabs crashed' or 'do yu have a copy of the tab from 2007'.

EUDC 2008: Motions so far

R1: THW require people to work in return for welfare payments
R2: THBT sporting bodies should penalise teams when their players commit criminal acts off the field
R3: THW use military force where necessary to deliver emergency aid
R4: THW make fines relative to wealth

(For any non debaters reading: THW=This House Would, THBT=This House Believes That) No law for the next couple of days, I'm afraid, just Euros geekery. I'll do a glossary.

All of the motions so far seem fairly solid, nothing too innovative (well, I've done all of them except Round 2 before, and I was going to run R2 at a training session).

None of them are especially IR or knowledge heavy so far either, and we haven't had a 'local' motion...

So far there's been: Social justice, sport/society, IR, criminal justice...

So they still have Estonia/that area of the world, medical ethic, gender, religion, science, another IR... to name but a few.

Whilst I would love these motions (fluff tastic!) I am somewhat surprised by them, I have to say, I would have thought there would be more hardcore/new motions.

EUDC 2008: Euros Results (day 1) Final update and tab for the day

Inner temple (Rupert and partner): 2,2,3, five points, minus 1.

SOAS: All teams are on three points (minus 3) have taken three thirds.

On the 'tab of teams I'm watching' therefore:

MDU A: 8, (+2)
ULU: 7, (+1)
Middle: 6 (0)
KCL A: 6 (0)
KCL B: 6 (0)
MDU B: 5 (-1)
MDU C: 5 (-1)
Inner: 5 (-1)
SOAS: 3 (-3)

And on to tomorrow....

EUDC 2008: Euros Results (day 1): Confirmed MDU results

I am grateful to Dan James for sending the following results through:

MDU A: Dan/James: 1st 1st 2nd
MDU C: Tom/Kenny: 3rd1st 3rd
MDU B: Klairi/Usama: 4th 2nd 1st

This puts:
MDU A on 8 points, or plus 2
MDU C on 5 points, or minus 1
MDU B on 5 points, or minus 1

I suspect the 'definite break' will be plus 1. Straights might do it though, if speaks are high enough.

EUDC 2008: Euros Results (day 1) UPDATE

Update on day one:

Middle A (James and Katrina): are on straights
ULU (Fred and Rosie): Plus 1

For those of you who don't know, a first is +1, a second is 0, a third is -1 and a fourth is -2. ULU have therefore for two 2nds and a 1st. Middle A either have three 2nds or a 1st,2nd and 3rd.

KCL A (Jonathan Leader Maynard and Louis Palomb): Straights

KCL B (Andrew Tuffin and Jon Gaydon): straights

No update on SOAS.

Latest results are from Rosie (thank you :) )

EUDC 2008: Euros Results (day 1)

MDU A (Dan Bradley and James Dixon): two wins, no result for round 3.
MDU B (Usama Rehman and Klairi Liis): 4th, 2nd and 1st
MDU C: 2nd and either 1st or 3rd, no result for round three

ULU (Fred and Rosie): No results

Middle A (James and Katrina): No results
Inner: No results
SOAS: No results

More updates when I bully them out of people!

Cluster bombs - the op line

I've been wondering if cluster bombs will come up at Euros this year. The 'ban them' argument is reasonably straight forward and shouldn't need any explanation. Here, however, is an argument to keep them (which may be useful).

Estonian news, in English

For Estonian daily news (and, indeed, Baltic news) in English, go here.

Example Debating CV

As promised, an example of a debating CV. I haven't listed all the IV's which I've gone to, mainly because I've forgotten which they were (possibly due to excess alcohol consumption). If you started debating relatively recently (like, in the last two years or so) then I would advise you to list the all IVs you have attended (and can remember). The same applies for judging.

If you remember doing especially well at an IV, but can't remember how well, e-mail me as I probably have the tab on my computer somewhere if it was in the last 2-3 years. Good God, I'm sad.

Debating CV

Debating Experience
2003-2004

Manchester Intra-varsity: Winning team

2005-2006

Tilbury House: Best Speaker on the tab, Best Speaker in the final, winning team in final.

Koc IV: Quarter-finalist

2006-2007

Cambridge IV: 14^th Speaker on the Tab

Birmingham IV: Quarter-finalist

Vancouver Worlds: Octo-finalist

Kingsmill-Invitational (Trinity): Semi-Finalist

Trinity IV: Quarter finalist

Bristol Open: Finalist

2007-2008

Bristol IV*: Finalist

Cambridge*: 24^th Speaker on the Tab

Birmingham IV*: Finalist

Worlds (Thailand)*: Attended

Warwick IV *: Winning team, best speaker in the final. Third best speaker on the tab.

*Represented Middle Temple

In addition, I have been to many other IVs.

Judging Experience
2006-2007
Manchester

Finals Judge

Tilbury House
Finals judge
2007-2008
President's Cup
Finals judge

Lancaster IV

Finals judge

The MDU

2003-2004:

Interim treasurer

2005-2006

Aide-to-Chair

2007-2008

Training director

Over the last 5 years, when not directly involved with the committee, I have nevertheless helped out by judging on Thursdays, putting up posters, being involved with the IVs, running training on an ad hoc basis or as a joint venture, writing to potential sponsors and attending our sponsor’s events.

EUROS SELECTION

Euros

1. Euros will be in Tallinn, 22^nd-28^th June.
2. The institution cap is 3 teams and n-1 is in force.
3. I would like to reg 3 teams from the MDU.
4. Flights cost about £100-£150.
5. Registration is €210, about £150. This includes accommodation, food, alcohol, socials and transfers.
6. I would like to be able to offer some funding, but I cannot guarantee that I will be able to.
7. If you would like to be considered for selection, please do it on the basis that funding will not be available with the possibility of a nice surprise, rather than on the basis that funding will be available with the possibility of disappointment.
8. If more people apply than there are spaces available, I will run trials.
9. Selection will be based on performance at those trials as well as commitment to the society in general.
10. More information is available on the Tallinn Euros website: http://www.eudc2008.eu/index.php?content=8
11. If you are interested in applying for Euros, please let me know by 7^th February, 2008.
1. The process for informing me that you are interested will be posted on Facebook in just a couple of days.
2. It will basically involve you committing to Euros should you be selected, confirming that you know the potential ‘worst case’ funding scenario.
3. You will be asked to submit a debating CV if you wish to be considered for selection as a competitor
4. You will be asked to submit a debating AND judging CV if you wish to be considered for selection as a adjudicator
5. An example CV will be posted on my blog in a couple of days