Sam and Adam took a 2nd in the last round so they're now on a mere +5.
:::Jealous:::
30 December, 2007
The non-tab geeky worlds post
Well, the dorms are lovely and the campus makes Koc look bad (Koc being lovely but this being something else!). It is an officially dry campus, but a decent amount of free alcohol is being provided.
The two main issues are food (improving) and timings.
Day one was massively behind. Having been at breakfast at about 7:30-08:00, they ran the tab nearly two hours behind schedule.
Today has run more on time (in the end, less than an hour off) but there was a lot of waiting around. One of the benefits of being on a capmus should be the ability to go back to the dorm for a couple of hours or go on the internet. The problem is that they tell a time and so people go and are then left to wait for ages. This morning was less their fault, they were waiting for teams to arrive.
To be honest, when it comes to late teams I have only a limited amount of sympathy. When it comes to late teams on a campus, I have none. If you say you'll run at 9:30, you do a campuswide announcement at 9:15 over the PA system that you will run in 15 minutes and if people aren't there, it's their problem.
Their tone today suggests tomorrow will be much stricter.
Food at lunch for the first two days was sparse and inedible. Luckily, the cafes etc are stupidly cehap so not really a problem. Today it was apparently much better. Dinner tonight was wonderful, for the first time they served Thai food rather than western food and it's a much better idea. Thai food tastes nice, tends to suit a range of tastes and frankly, they should be good at it!
In terms of alcohol, there is a lot of beer (they're sponsored by singha!) and, more importantly in my view, non-beer alternatives. Ok, they're E-number alco-pops, but they taste fine :). Swiftly spreading rumours of a dry break night were categorically scotched this afternoon, though rumours that they are going to run out of bottle water are increasing.
The 7/11 down the road is fulfilling the role played by the alcohol hut down the hill at Koc. Long may it last!
A more fun rumour is that the final prize isn't just supported/sponsored by the King, but may be presented by him. I'll be at the airport by then, unfortunately so will have to find out like everyone else!
Ok, off to sleep now as tomorrow looks to be hard work and then Worlds Council the next day. Joy of joys.
LIZ
xx
The two main issues are food (improving) and timings.
Day one was massively behind. Having been at breakfast at about 7:30-08:00, they ran the tab nearly two hours behind schedule.
Today has run more on time (in the end, less than an hour off) but there was a lot of waiting around. One of the benefits of being on a capmus should be the ability to go back to the dorm for a couple of hours or go on the internet. The problem is that they tell a time and so people go and are then left to wait for ages. This morning was less their fault, they were waiting for teams to arrive.
To be honest, when it comes to late teams I have only a limited amount of sympathy. When it comes to late teams on a campus, I have none. If you say you'll run at 9:30, you do a campuswide announcement at 9:15 over the PA system that you will run in 15 minutes and if people aren't there, it's their problem.
Their tone today suggests tomorrow will be much stricter.
Food at lunch for the first two days was sparse and inedible. Luckily, the cafes etc are stupidly cehap so not really a problem. Today it was apparently much better. Dinner tonight was wonderful, for the first time they served Thai food rather than western food and it's a much better idea. Thai food tastes nice, tends to suit a range of tastes and frankly, they should be good at it!
In terms of alcohol, there is a lot of beer (they're sponsored by singha!) and, more importantly in my view, non-beer alternatives. Ok, they're E-number alco-pops, but they taste fine :). Swiftly spreading rumours of a dry break night were categorically scotched this afternoon, though rumours that they are going to run out of bottle water are increasing.
The 7/11 down the road is fulfilling the role played by the alcohol hut down the hill at Koc. Long may it last!
A more fun rumour is that the final prize isn't just supported/sponsored by the King, but may be presented by him. I'll be at the airport by then, unfortunately so will have to find out like everyone else!
Ok, off to sleep now as tomorrow looks to be hard work and then Worlds Council the next day. Joy of joys.
LIZ
xx
Results R1-6
For reference: ULU is JLM and Paddy, Middle A is Fred and Ali, Middle B is Myself and James and Inner are Nye and Rob.
Sam and Adam (Cam A) were on 15 at the end of round 5 (ie: straight firsts), I don't know the result for round six yet.
Day 1 was rubbish for Middle B as we had two really rubbish calls. In the first room James was extending, feedback was 'good new points, new examples and nwe analysis but you didn't adequately flag it as an extension, therefore you came 3rd'. Some what annoying, but at least the judge was competant on the rest of the feedback.
In round 2 we also took the third in a decision so horrendous we complained to the CAs and were given competant judges for round 3 (1st).
Round 1 motion was THW allow the use of torture. We were second op.
Round 2 motion was THBT Taiwan should declare independance now. We were first prop.
Round 3 motion was TTHW not allow local government pay for the relocation of homeless people. We were first op.
R3 went slightly crazy as 1p were from Korea and talking about homeless as in 'mass migration with people with handcarts' whereas the rest of us were talking about the man with his dog outside the railway station. Oh well!
Day 2 has gone a lot better, but we're just not had any 'lucky' calls. We took a 1st and two seconds but on each of the seconds missed out by only one speaker mark. Little frustrating! The judging hasn't been crazy though, just unlucky.
motions for today have been
R4: THW allow defendants to have government lawyers only (2nd Prop, took the 2nd but we'd been put in a bit of a corner by 1p)
R5: THW only provide EU aid to countries which persued environmentally friendly policies (Second prop, came first)
R6: THW put more restrictions on foreign political donations than domestics ones (defined as in the US). We were first op and took a second.
In terms of other teams:
ULU are on a solid 15
Middle A (I believe) are on 13
Middle B are on 12
Inner Temple are now, unfortunately, out of the break having just taken a 4th and a 3rd in the last two rounds.
It's speculated that straights (18) may not be enough to break. I'm more inclined to the 'top 4-5 on 18 will berak' view. If Sam and Adam continue to meteor up, this'll be more likely.
We're idly speculating the chance of Sam and Adam get 27 but then not getting through the octos. Ahem. :)
This is a terribly geeky post, information about the tournament as a whole will be posted next.
LIZ
xx
Sam and Adam (Cam A) were on 15 at the end of round 5 (ie: straight firsts), I don't know the result for round six yet.
Day 1 was rubbish for Middle B as we had two really rubbish calls. In the first room James was extending, feedback was 'good new points, new examples and nwe analysis but you didn't adequately flag it as an extension, therefore you came 3rd'. Some what annoying, but at least the judge was competant on the rest of the feedback.
In round 2 we also took the third in a decision so horrendous we complained to the CAs and were given competant judges for round 3 (1st).
Round 1 motion was THW allow the use of torture. We were second op.
Round 2 motion was THBT Taiwan should declare independance now. We were first prop.
Round 3 motion was TTHW not allow local government pay for the relocation of homeless people. We were first op.
R3 went slightly crazy as 1p were from Korea and talking about homeless as in 'mass migration with people with handcarts' whereas the rest of us were talking about the man with his dog outside the railway station. Oh well!
Day 2 has gone a lot better, but we're just not had any 'lucky' calls. We took a 1st and two seconds but on each of the seconds missed out by only one speaker mark. Little frustrating! The judging hasn't been crazy though, just unlucky.
motions for today have been
R4: THW allow defendants to have government lawyers only (2nd Prop, took the 2nd but we'd been put in a bit of a corner by 1p)
R5: THW only provide EU aid to countries which persued environmentally friendly policies (Second prop, came first)
R6: THW put more restrictions on foreign political donations than domestics ones (defined as in the US). We were first op and took a second.
In terms of other teams:
ULU are on a solid 15
Middle A (I believe) are on 13
Middle B are on 12
Inner Temple are now, unfortunately, out of the break having just taken a 4th and a 3rd in the last two rounds.
It's speculated that straights (18) may not be enough to break. I'm more inclined to the 'top 4-5 on 18 will berak' view. If Sam and Adam continue to meteor up, this'll be more likely.
We're idly speculating the chance of Sam and Adam get 27 but then not getting through the octos. Ahem. :)
This is a terribly geeky post, information about the tournament as a whole will be posted next.
LIZ
xx
28 December, 2007
Thailand
Well, just arrived in Thailand yesterday after a fairly long, but good, flight. I do recommend Swiss for future travel!
It's fairly hot here (35C) but not horrific and all the dorms (more like hotels!) have AC. The campus is beautiful- even makes Koc look normal.
All the adjudication briefing stuff seems normal.
We're definitely not debating Indian nukes, drugs in sport of circumcism as they were all used in the judges briefing.
More to follow.
It's fairly hot here (35C) but not horrific and all the dorms (more like hotels!) have AC. The campus is beautiful- even makes Koc look normal.
All the adjudication briefing stuff seems normal.
We're definitely not debating Indian nukes, drugs in sport of circumcism as they were all used in the judges briefing.
More to follow.
17 December, 2007
Anorexia: Not caused by thin models
Scientists investigating anorexia and other similar eating disorders have said that they may not be caused or triggered by pictures of thin models or an aspiration to look that way, but rather by an inherited tendency in the brain to respond to pleasure and reward in a particular way.
Here.
Here.
16 December, 2007
Birmingham IV
This weekend was the Birmingham IV. The MDU sent 4 teams and 3 judges (who were wonderful for responding to an emergency call for judges!). The tab has not yet been released so I don't know how everyone did exactly, will update when I have more information!
What I do know:
Manchester BM (Dan B and Chellsie) did excellently in breaking to the semis.
Manchester FP (Kenny and Ciaran) managed to get into the top room for round three.
The motions were:
Round 1: THW ban music which glorifies violence
Round 2: THW co-operate with Hamas
Round 3: THW nationalise Northern Rock
Round 4: THW halt expansion of the EU
Round 5: THBT parents who have had a child taken into care should be stopped from having any more children
Semi: THW support the police's right to strike (in the UK)
Final: THBT juries should have to give reasons for their verdicts
The IV was won by Galway (second op) after a two hour adjudication. Apparently, on the first call virtually all the judges had different calls on 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th so they instantly knew it was going to take a while!
The final was held in the Barber institute which is an art gallery on the Birmingham campus. I've got to say, I'm a fan of having finals in nice places, I think it marks them out which is nice. The 'three course meal' was less good this year. Last year they'd hired a big room on the university and got caterers in. This year it was in a local student bar where everyone had to eat in two sittings. Hmmm. Perhaps they'll return to staff house next year.
More to follow when the tab is out.
What I do know:
Manchester BM (Dan B and Chellsie) did excellently in breaking to the semis.
Manchester FP (Kenny and Ciaran) managed to get into the top room for round three.
The motions were:
Round 1: THW ban music which glorifies violence
Round 2: THW co-operate with Hamas
Round 3: THW nationalise Northern Rock
Round 4: THW halt expansion of the EU
Round 5: THBT parents who have had a child taken into care should be stopped from having any more children
Semi: THW support the police's right to strike (in the UK)
Final: THBT juries should have to give reasons for their verdicts
The IV was won by Galway (second op) after a two hour adjudication. Apparently, on the first call virtually all the judges had different calls on 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th so they instantly knew it was going to take a while!
The final was held in the Barber institute which is an art gallery on the Birmingham campus. I've got to say, I'm a fan of having finals in nice places, I think it marks them out which is nice. The 'three course meal' was less good this year. Last year they'd hired a big room on the university and got caterers in. This year it was in a local student bar where everyone had to eat in two sittings. Hmmm. Perhaps they'll return to staff house next year.
More to follow when the tab is out.
13 December, 2007
Urbanisation in the 21st Century and its future impact
Recently, the percentage of the world's population living in cities just passed the 50% mark.
How does this impact on our lives and is the increasing proportion of people living in cities likely to be positive or negative in the future?
I'd offer my own answer, but freakonomics blog has already asked several thinkers on this point and they've given a vast array of opinions. Some think negative of the trend, I'm more inclined to sympathise with the most positive point of view put forward by Glaeser.
How does this impact on our lives and is the increasing proportion of people living in cities likely to be positive or negative in the future?
I'd offer my own answer, but freakonomics blog has already asked several thinkers on this point and they've given a vast array of opinions. Some think negative of the trend, I'm more inclined to sympathise with the most positive point of view put forward by Glaeser.
12 December, 2007
Wednesday research
I am glad that Ben Morrow is starting Wednesday research sessions and look forward to seeing the results of them.
With his permission, I hope to post the findings on this blog....
With his permission, I hope to post the findings on this blog....
Religion as a moral compass
Firstly, sorry about the lack of posts. No excuse except not finding anything especially interesting to comment on.
Last Thursday's debate was on religion, more specifically, TTH condemns parents who enforce their religion on their children.
Given the teaching speech at the beginning of the evening, I'm not surprised that the 'religion is good as it provides a moral compass' argument came up.
When I had initially sat down with Dan and planned that point, the point was as superficial as 'the ten commandments are generally a pretty good way to live ones life'. The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that the merit in the argument is not the superficial one, but the deeper one.
All societies condemn murder, theft, adultary etc. whether they are Christian, Hindu, Animist or Atheist. They might quibble over what the words mean, but the core thought is there. Religion, in my mind, doesn't impact on these big morals particularly. Where it does have more value in the moral sphere is on deeper issues. Concepts like forgiveness or retaliation are given a particular slant by religions. For example, Christianity is pretty explicit on the issue of turning the other cheek whereas Islam allows ideas of justice being a form of personal retribution to influence shari'a law. Equally, the idea of judgement for religious mis-deeds. Modern interpretations of Christianity (which I think are the better ones) would generally condemn societal punishment for religious transgressions, instead, allowing God to be the arbiter. To use Islam, again, the punishment is explicitly allowed and encouraged.
The role of religion as a moral compass, therefore, is more vital when looking at subtle issues such as forgiveness than looking at 'easy' issues such as 'thou shallt not kill'.
Last Thursday's debate was on religion, more specifically, TTH condemns parents who enforce their religion on their children.
Given the teaching speech at the beginning of the evening, I'm not surprised that the 'religion is good as it provides a moral compass' argument came up.
When I had initially sat down with Dan and planned that point, the point was as superficial as 'the ten commandments are generally a pretty good way to live ones life'. The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that the merit in the argument is not the superficial one, but the deeper one.
All societies condemn murder, theft, adultary etc. whether they are Christian, Hindu, Animist or Atheist. They might quibble over what the words mean, but the core thought is there. Religion, in my mind, doesn't impact on these big morals particularly. Where it does have more value in the moral sphere is on deeper issues. Concepts like forgiveness or retaliation are given a particular slant by religions. For example, Christianity is pretty explicit on the issue of turning the other cheek whereas Islam allows ideas of justice being a form of personal retribution to influence shari'a law. Equally, the idea of judgement for religious mis-deeds. Modern interpretations of Christianity (which I think are the better ones) would generally condemn societal punishment for religious transgressions, instead, allowing God to be the arbiter. To use Islam, again, the punishment is explicitly allowed and encouraged.
The role of religion as a moral compass, therefore, is more vital when looking at subtle issues such as forgiveness than looking at 'easy' issues such as 'thou shallt not kill'.
07 December, 2007
£1 train tickets London <--> Manchester
You can go London<-->Manchester for £1 by train by booking here.
You can book up to about 2 months in advance. The £1 tickets tend to go earlier. If you book the week before, tickets will be about £3-£9. £9 seems to be the highest price.
These tickets are only available on the London/Manchester route.
You can book up to about 2 months in advance. The £1 tickets tend to go earlier. If you book the week before, tickets will be about £3-£9. £9 seems to be the highest price.
These tickets are only available on the London/Manchester route.
Feedback form
Thursday Feedback Form
- On a scale of 1-10, where 1 is ‘rubbish, would rather have watched paint dry’, 5 is ‘average/it made no difference really’ and 10 is ‘it changed my life’ how would you rank:
- The ‘teaching’ at the beginning of each Thursday ______
- The handouts/other written resources ________
- The motions each Thursday ________
- The judging each Thursday ________
- Thursdays as a whole _______
- Comments about the above
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- How much do you understand from training? 1-10 where 1 is ‘it’s unintelligible’ and 10 is ‘it’s crystal clear’. _________
- Concerning the information given both orally and in the handout on Thursday is there: Too much information, the right amount of information or far too little information? (Please underline the one which applies)
- What are the things you have enjoy most on Thursdays?
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- What are the things you have enjoy least on Thursdays?
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- On a scale of 1-10, are Thursdays fun? 1= dreadfully dull, 10= funner than a fox in fishnets on a Friday? __________
- Do you have any suggestions for next term? Things you would like to see more of/less of, areas of knowledge not yet covered/not covered in sufficient detail, aspects of the rule of debating that you are confused about….
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- How adequate has the information about IVs been?
- Have you been easily able to find which IVs are on? (y/n)________
- Have you been easily able to say you are interested? (y/n) ________
- Has there been adequate information about IVs? (y/n) ________
- In your opinion, has team selection been done fairly? (y/n) ________
i. If not, how could this be improved?
| Any other comments? |
- (Optional): How long have you been debating? __________
04 December, 2007
IV interest next semester
January and February IVs are now available on the website.
In order to avoid disappointment, please make sure you are aware of the relevant closing dates.
In order to avoid disappointment, please make sure you are aware of the relevant closing dates.
03 December, 2007
Free Beer
We've had 4 cans of Carlsberg and a bottle of Kroenenberg in the house for a few months now. Neither of us are beer drinkers. First person to reply to this post using the comment thing-y below who will be at debating this Thursday gets them.
Much Love,
LIZ
Much Love,
LIZ
Aussie and NZ debating knowledge
Ok, so when New Zealanders and Australians are expected to know about schools in Northern Ireland for debates, I'm not surprised that they have significantly more knowledge than we all do!
Glad Victoria won though, saw them at Oxford and Cambridge and they were good speakers and lovely people :)
Glad Victoria won though, saw them at Oxford and Cambridge and they were good speakers and lovely people :)
02 December, 2007
Lancaster IV 2007 Speaker Tab
| Rank | Speaker name | Team Name | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Total |
| 1= | Rachel Francis | Durham A | 78 | 77 | 81 | 78 | 314 |
| 1= | Stephanie Shepherd | Newcastle Untoward Events | 76 | 76 | 77 | 85 | 314 |
| 3= | Tom Jackson | Nottingham Men in Tights | 80 | 74 | 81 | 77 | 312 |
| 3= | James Torrance | Nottingham Men in Tights | 78 | 74 | 82 | 78 | 312 |
| 5 | Luke Wells | Durham B | 75 | 78 | 76 | 82 | 311 |
| 6= | Tabitha Willmer | Durham B | 77 | 77 | 77 | 79 | 310 |
| 6= | Antonia Henbest | Newcastle Untoward Events | 76 | 74 | 78 | 82 | 310 |
| 8 | Fletch Williams | Durham A | 79 | 74 | 76 | 79 | 308 |
| 9 | Tom Silverton | Manchester TM | 72 | 77 | 77 | 81 | 307 |
| 10= | Sherraz Qureshi | SOAS A | 76 | 77 | 73 | 79 | 305 |
| 10= | James Gillespie | Durham C | 75 | 73 | 77 | 80 | 305 |
| 12= | Chris Woods | Boring York A | 77 | 78 | 72 | 75 | 302 |
| 12= | Phil Alexander | Durham C | 76 | 73 | 77 | 76 | 302 |
| 14 | Sam Dobin | Cambridge | 76 | 74 | 77 | 73 | 300 |
| 15 | Ashleigh Lamming | Cambridge | 78 | 79 | 73 | 69 | 299 |
| 16= | Usama Rehman | Manchester RU | 74 | 71 | 79 | 74 | 298 |
| 16= | Klairi Liis | Manchester DK | 74 | 72 | 77 | 75 | 298 |
| 18= | Jordan Anderson | SOAS A | 71 | 74 | 74 | 77 | 296 |
| 18= | Rachel Crook | Warwick His and Hers | 76 | 70 | 72 | 78 | 296 |
| 20 | Kyalo Burt-Fulcher | Warwick His and Hers | 77 | 74 | 68 | 76 | 295 |
| 21= | Ruby Newton | Manchester RU | 76 | 71 | 78 | 69 | 294 |
| 21= | Rajim Chowdury | Sheffield A | 75 | 74 | 73 | 72 | 294 |
| 21= | Viv | Swing C | 73 | 74 | 72 | 75 | 294 |
| 21= | Tim Lees | Nottingham Shottingham | 78 | 71 | 76 | 69 | 294 |
| 25 | Michael Joslin | Manchester TM | 66 | 75 | 75 | 76 | 292 |
| 26 | Andy Hunter | Boring York A | 74 | 74 | 69 | 73 | 290 |
| 27 | Sam Morrow | Manchester BS | 70 | 75 | 72 | 72 | 289 |
| 28= | Sam Eccleston | Manchester SR | 75 | 65 | 76 | 72 | 288 |
| 28= | Deborah Joseph | Manchester DK | 72 | 69 | 71 | 76 | 288 |
| 30= | Rob Bentall | Manchester SR | 75 | 67 | 75 | 70 | 287 |
| 30= | Ben Morrow | Manchester BS | 75 | 73 | 69 | 70 | 287 |
| 32 | Anthony Wieczorek | Durham D | 74 | 67 | 73 | 72 | 286 |
| 33= | Jessica Moore | Warwick Tips the Velvet | 72 | 70 | 72 | 70 | 284 |
| 33= | Dom | Swing A | 66 | 76 | 69 | 73 | 284 |
| 33= | Luke | Swing C | 65 | 73 | 72 | 74 | 284 |
| 33= | Ciaran Prendeville | Manchester SC | 69 | 75 | 65 | 75 | 284 |
| 33= | Weijie soh | Boring York C | 73 | 71 | 70 | 70 | 284 |
| 33= | Patrick Keating | Boring York C | 71 | 72 | 71 | 70 | 284 |
| 39 | Maya Kessler | Nottingham Shottingham | 75 | 68 | 71 | 69 | 283 |
| 40= | Laura Knightly | Sheffield A | 68 | 71 | 72 | 69 | 280 |
| 40= | Gayan Samarasinghe | Monsters Inc. | 69 | 73 | 68 | 70 | 280 |
| 40= | Sissy Wamaitha | Manchester SC | 69 | 73 | 65 | 73 | 280 |
| 43= | Michael Dallaway | Newcastle Rainbow | 73 | 68 | 69 | 69 | 279 |
| 43= | Aris Catsambas | Boring York B | 69 | 70 | 69 | 71 | 279 |
| 43= | Caroline Howard | Warwick Tips the Velvet | 75 | 65 | 65 | 74 | 279 |
| 43= | Ruthie Jacobs | Manchester MR | 72 | 69 | 70 | 68 | 279 |
| 47 | Belinda Carr | Newcastle Skittles | 72 | 66 | 69 | 70 | 277 |
| 48= | Maria | Swing B | 66 | 74 | 69 | 67 | 276 |
| 48= | Oliver Lewis | Newcastle Rainbow | 74 | 69 | 65 | 68 | 276 |
| 48= | Robert Haynes | Strathclyde | 69 | 69 | 67 | 71 | 276 |
| 48= | Venita Nordon | Boring York B | 67 | 69 | 69 | 71 | 276 |
| 52 | Alex Cavell | SOAS charasmatic un troopers | 72 | 72 | 66 | 65 | 275 |
| 53= | Stephen Jamieson | Newcastle Skittles | 70 | 65 | 69 | 70 | 274 |
| 53= | Ben | Swing A | 67 | 72 | 63 | 72 | 274 |
| 53= | Marc Dunwell | Manchester MR | 71 | 67 | 69 | 67 | 274 |
| 56= | Charlotte | Swing B | 66 | 73 | 69 | 65 | 273 |
| 56= | Sophie Burt | Durham E | 72 | 69 | 66 | 66 | 273 |
| 58= | Simon Smith | Warwick His and His | 74 | 67 | 62 | 69 | 272 |
| 58= | Anneka Sirs | Durham E | 72 | 66 | 70 | 64 | 272 |
| 60 | Richard Mead | Warwick His and His | 73 | 67 | 61 | 70 | 271 |
| 61= | Maddie Fry | SOAS charasmatic un troopers | 66 | 74 | 64 | 66 | 270 |
| 61= | Rob Harris | Strathclyde | 67 | 67 | 66 | 70 | 270 |
| 63 | Will Day | Durham D | 67 | 64 | 63 | 72 | 266 |
| 64 | Adam Raysor | Monsters Inc. | 68 | 61 | 67 | 67 | 263 |
Lancaster IV 2007 Team Tab
| Rank | Team Name | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Total team Points | Total Speaker Points |
| 1 | Newcastle Untoward Events | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 10 | 624 |
| 2 | Durham A | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 10 | 622 |
| 3 | Durham B | 3 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 10 | 621 |
| 4 | SOAS A | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 9 | 601 |
| 5 | Manchester DK | 3 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 9 | 586 |
| 6 | Nottingham Men in Tights | 3 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 8 | 624 |
| 7 | Manchester TM | 0 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 8 | 599 |
| 8 | Manchester BS | 2 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 8 | 576 |
| 9 | Durham C | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 7 | 607 |
| 10 | Manchester RU | 2 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 7 | 592 |
| 11 | Warwick His and Hers | 3 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 7 | 591 |
| 12 | Nottingham Shottingham | 2 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 7 | 577 |
| 13 | Warwick Tips the Velvet | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 7 | 563 |
| 14 | Cambridge | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 599 |
| 15 | Boring York A | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 6 | 592 |
| 16 | Swing C | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 578 |
| 17 | Manchester SR | 3 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 6 | 575 |
| 18 | Boring York C | 2 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 6 | 568 |
| 19 | Manchester SC | 0 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 6 | 564 |
| 20 | Manchester MR | 2 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 553 |
| 21 | Durham D | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 552 |
| 22 | Newcastle Skittles | 1 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 551 |
| 23 | Durham E | 1 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 5 | 545 |
| 24 | Swing A | 0 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 558 |
| 25= | Newcastle Rainbow | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 555 |
| 25= | Boring York B | 0 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 555 |
| 27 | Swing B | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 4 | 549 |
| 28 | Strathclyde | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 546 |
| 29 | Sheffield A | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 574 |
| 30 | Monsters Inc. | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 543 |
| 31 | Warwick His and His | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 543 |
| 32 | SOAS charasmatic un troopers | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 545 |
Lancaster IV 2007
Lancaster, this weekend, was fun - though with the MDU dominating the judging panel, any issues of judge clashes had to simply be ignored! Apparently, a couple of universities were disgruntled that they were being judged by Manchester judges so often. Had they complained directly to me, I would have explained in a non-sweet manner that if they have a problem with judging, the solution is to fix it next year and bring their own judges!
The motions were:
R1: THW issue indeterminate sentences to repeat offenders of petty crime.
R2: (The paraphrased version), THW send fat kids to fat camp
R3: THBT the West should withdraw all military funding to Pakistan unless Pakistan holds free, fair and constitutional elections
R4: (Analysis debate) THBT Britain's former colonies in Africa would be better off today had they remained under British rule.
Final: THBT all imports into the EU should be fair trade (TM).
There were info slides for rounds 1, 3 and 4.
Manchester teams did well, overall. Unfortunately, MDU teams didn't manage to break, but one team missed out only on speaker points and at least three others were in break rooms.
The motions were:
R1: THW issue indeterminate sentences to repeat offenders of petty crime.
R2: (The paraphrased version), THW send fat kids to fat camp
R3: THBT the West should withdraw all military funding to Pakistan unless Pakistan holds free, fair and constitutional elections
R4: (Analysis debate) THBT Britain's former colonies in Africa would be better off today had they remained under British rule.
Final: THBT all imports into the EU should be fair trade (TM).
There were info slides for rounds 1, 3 and 4.
Manchester teams did well, overall. Unfortunately, MDU teams didn't manage to break, but one team missed out only on speaker points and at least three others were in break rooms.
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